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Post by spool32 on Jul 12, 2012 15:32:46 GMT -5
Once a neutral is let onto the proboards, does that constitute them "choosing" to join our ranks, or is it possible for a neutral to come on and sell us up river? Without giving too much away, conversions come with enforced trustworthiness in this game. Of course someone could pull a Bedlam but, assuming a conversion still has the potential for occurring, it would go down much like premium's did.
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Post by kime on Jul 13, 2012 8:03:35 GMT -5
What are people that target me and get rollblocked told?
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Post by spool32 on Jul 13, 2012 9:10:53 GMT -5
What are people that target me and get rollblocked told? That "another player has viciously roleblocked you!" that their power failed, and that the stunning wears off after vote close (effectively unable to use the power on the day they receive the note).
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Post by spool32 on Jul 13, 2012 11:37:18 GMT -5
So, here was what premium said was his WC: Stever is saying that he is neutral, but needs to actually be granted access to the private communications to win. Premium's 1) condition would have required someone (mafia or village specials) grant him access to something private (proboards, PM chain from the hard network participants). He could not meet the conditions by simply stating that he had chosen a side. I can neither confirm nor deny that the other Neutrals, should they exist, have the same conditions.
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Post by kime on Jul 13, 2012 11:51:57 GMT -5
I see.
With premium's condition, if he were granted access, would that have ensured he were converted?
Could I have... say, start a PM with MrT and myself, then invite premium to that?
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Post by premium on Jul 13, 2012 12:04:53 GMT -5
I had this clarification on that from spool earlier:
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Post by spool32 on Jul 13, 2012 12:05:42 GMT -5
I see. With premium's condition, if he were granted access, would that have ensured he were converted? Could I have... say, start a PM with MrT and myself, then invite premium to that? I imagined the condition as a cooperative thing... Premium expresses a desire to convert, and the mafia adds him to the group PM or gives him access to the proboard, and then he inherits the mafia win condition and is reliably converted. Edit: I wouldn't consider kime + MrT + premium enough. I'd want you to add him to the actual group PM I sent out, with the proboard link and my welcome note in it.
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Post by MrT on Jul 13, 2012 12:07:28 GMT -5
To whom must premium have expressed desire? For example, if he told kime "I want to join the mafia team" but told you "actually I don't want to join the mafia team," and then we granted him access, would he have had our win condition or not?
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Post by spool32 on Jul 13, 2012 12:23:01 GMT -5
To whom must premium have expressed desire? For example, if he told kime "I want to join the mafia team" but told you "actually I don't want to join the mafia team," and then we granted him access, would he have had our win condition or not? If Premium, still as a neutral, had informed me that he was not actually wanting to convert, I would have applied his win condition nonetheless when he told the mafia yes and they granted him access. If Premium, having somehow already converted to the village, had done so, I would have done nothing because he would no longer be neutral and would have already inherited someone else's wincon as his own.
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Post by MrT on Jul 13, 2012 12:24:58 GMT -5
That is what I wanted to hear
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Post by spool32 on Jul 16, 2012 8:45:12 GMT -5
Slight clarification to the Day 4 results - the information is the same, but for consistency I've correct role names rather than spelling it out.
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Post by kime on Jul 16, 2012 11:17:17 GMT -5
If a neutral (like premium) were to be converted (not the way we did it with premium, but the way we were talking about previously of them accepting an invite to the proboards and whatnot), would their color be changed?
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Post by spool32 on Jul 16, 2012 12:18:22 GMT -5
If a neutral (like premium) were to be converted (not the way we did it with premium, but the way we were talking about previously of them accepting an invite to the proboards and whatnot), would their color be changed? Were they for some reason to appear in a subsequent day's narration, yes. I am using an RNG to choose names, but your probability of appearing approaches 1:1 as I run out of unmentioned role names.
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Post by kime on Jul 16, 2012 12:27:03 GMT -5
Yeah, for narrations/seerings/etc. That answers it, thanks!
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Post by MrT on Jul 16, 2012 14:13:20 GMT -5
If someone were converted tonight by a village ability, and they had a residual roleblock that was being shown in narration, would their role name be their original color or their converted color?
Spool always responds quickly to clarification requests because he is actually unemployed.
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