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Post by premium on Jul 13, 2012 11:55:51 GMT -5
I like how langly is basically covering my ass for voting mill yesterday for me.
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Post by kime on Jul 13, 2012 11:56:35 GMT -5
Well I'm arguing against it. Sorry
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Post by premium on Jul 13, 2012 11:57:30 GMT -5
Nah it's all good, nobody has any feelings about me yet.
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Post by premium on Jul 13, 2012 11:58:22 GMT -5
If anyone does try and finger me I'm going to argue that I voted jdark on day 1 and claim that the seer thing was just luck anyways because he died purple.
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Post by kime on Jul 13, 2012 12:05:01 GMT -5
Yeah, you're fine.
I'm talking with The Dagon, telling him that I am invincible and targeting me would hurt the person, etc. etc.
It's stuff he's probably going to find out anyways, going to him first is a good idea for me.
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Post by MrT on Jul 13, 2012 12:05:47 GMT -5
That's a bad argument (good blending in!)
The seer claim is almost certainly true. The fact that T_A is purple is irrelevant.
kime, if you wanna do the stever PM thing, I'm all for it, though I gave my speel to Dagon, so maybe wait until he tells me who the neutrals are (if he is going to today).
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Post by MrT on Jul 13, 2012 12:12:47 GMT -5
Before we do that though, ask stever what his alternate win condition is.
If he doesn't know, we definitely don't want to risk bringing him on.
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Post by premium on Jul 13, 2012 12:13:01 GMT -5
Yeah but it completely derailed the conversation away from anything constructive, which I was hoping for. The less they talk about something useful the more likely they are to just vote something random and dumb.
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Post by MrT on Jul 13, 2012 12:15:46 GMT -5
Yeah, you're fine. I'm talking with The Dagon, telling him that I am invincible and targeting me would hurt the person, etc. etc. It's stuff he's probably going to find out anyways, going to him first is a good idea for me. kime, if you want, you can cite my time travel phalla. I had a very similar mechanic that was a village role. At the end of the game, someone said something to the effect of "just goes to show you that that ability is far too powerful for a neutral to have," with the obvious extension of it's also too powerful for a mafia person to have.
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Post by kime on Jul 13, 2012 12:25:28 GMT -5
To whom must premium have expressed desire? For example, if he told kime "I want to join the mafia team" but told you "actually I don't want to join the mafia team," and then we granted him access, would he have had our win condition or not? If Premium, still as a neutral, had informed me that he was not actually wanting to convert, I would have applied his win condition nonetheless when he told the mafia yes and they granted him access. If Premium, having somehow already converted to the village, had done so, I would have done nothing because he would no longer be neutral and would have already inherited someone else's wincon as his own. This is important, guys. The decision now to make is: is stever legit neutral with the conversion condition? Because he can't take back his word if that is true. I say go for it. There are very few chances that he'd be village. There's not really a network for him to join, after all.
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Post by MrT on Jul 13, 2012 12:26:27 GMT -5
Unless he was never neutral to begin with.
Want to spend an action seer on him?
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Post by kime on Jul 13, 2012 12:28:11 GMT -5
That's the thing, IS he legit neutral?
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Post by premium on Jul 13, 2012 12:33:42 GMT -5
Did he tell you a second win condition yet?
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Post by greenbarons on Jul 13, 2012 12:41:54 GMT -5
If hes liesing and is a village and we invite him in we lose the game, straight up. Seems too big a risk to just trust him.
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Post by kime on Jul 13, 2012 13:38:48 GMT -5
No second win condition.
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